Kentucky EMT Instructors Association
Meeting Minutes of January 18, 1997

Call to Order: The KEMTIA Board Meeting was called to order January 18, 1997 at 1:15 pm at South Dixie Fire Station by President Jerry McGraw.

Members Present:

• President: Jerry McGraw
• Vice-President: Absent due to death of son
• Secretary: Aline Flanagan
• Treasurer: Theresa Martin
• Sergeant-At-Arms: Charles Barton
• Past President: Steve Burton
• Executive Secretary: Pat Trevathan

Regional Representatives:

1. Absent
2. Alice Nordine
3. Grover Fishbeck
4. Gary Madison
5. Virginia Shumate
6. Absent
7. [not reported]
8. [not reported]
9. Absent
10. Absent
11. Absent
12. Absent
13. Phil Taylor
14. Karen Brady
15. Randy Chrissman

Guests: Ron Leatherman, Everett Scott

Approval of Minutes: Motion by Grover Fishbeck, second by Ginny Shumate, to approve minutes of Board Meeting 10/05/96. Motion passed.

Treasurer Report: Reported that $40.00 was received from the EMS Conference. Motion by Grover Fishbeck, second by Chuck Barton, to keep this money in the KEMTIA Treasury. Motion passed. Motion by Ginny Shumate, second by Alice Nordine, to approve the treasurer report. Motion passed. (Attached)

Committee Reports:

April Conference Report: Everett Scott announced his resignation as Region 6 Rep. Motion made by Ginny Shumate, second by Phil Taylor, to allow Everett to continue planning and coordination of the April 1997 conference. Motion passed.

• Will be April 11, 12, 13, 1997 at the Holiday Inn South in Louisville.
• No confirmation will be received from the Governor or Lt. Governor until 2 weeks prior to the conference. This presents a difficulty in planning the re-presentation of EMS awards (originally presented at Louisville EMS conference).The president of the senate is available to make the awards presentation. Coordination of this will continue.
• Entertainment for Sat night as previously reported in October minutes.
• President McGraw will address KEMTIA membership on EMS issues in order to bring all up to date on various issues. (Probably on Friday)
• The conference will be very busy with a preconference to start on Thursday 4/10 through 4/11 (8 am - 4 pm) [Note: the original minutes read in error that this preconference would start on 4/09]. This preconference will be for national registration of EMT instructors.
  IMPORTANT: If you are interested in this process, contact Everett Scott at 502-964-0034. Leave a message with your name and that you are an instructor, or write: Everett Scott, 8572 Coco Ct, Louisville KY.
  ***Registration with Everett is required by April 1, 1997. Payment will be money order or cash.
• Friday night: a meeting of all EMT instructors who teach for Ky. Tech will be held at 7:00 pm. Location to be announced.
• Agenda attached of Saturday conference.
• Glenn Allen will assist with phone contacts to vendors.
• KAPA will be invited to attend our re-presentation of awards. This is to be coordinated for news media coverage.
• Joe Vetter will not be able to video the conference due to his injury.
• SkyCare/Jewish Hospital has signed a letter of committment to transport the Gov/Lt. Gov if they come to the conference.
• SkyCare has donated a gift certificate for 1 flight in the helicopter.
• See attached agenda.

1998 Conference Report: Report by Grover Fishbeck. The Executive Inn, with whom we have a contract, is in financial trouble, possibly up to its being sold. More will be reported as events occur.

Executive Secretary Report: See attached. Motion to approve by Dale Edmonson, second by Ginny Shumate. Motion passed.

Professional Affairs Committee:

• EMT Instructor of the Year -- Anyone who wishes to make a nomination, come prepared to do so in April with all paperwork/letter in hand.
• EMT Scholarship - no report.
• EEOC Draft: to be discussed in April 11, 1997 Board Meeting. A copy of the "cleaned up" draft will be mailed to the members of the board.

Political Affairs: No report.

Special Committee Reports: Ginny Shumate reporting.

• Photo journal with anecdotes and organizational history: A projected cost of the project was given to President McGraw by Ginny Shumate. President McGraw asked how far we want to go with this project???????
• The KEMTIA plaques are in the possession of the Executive Secretary. These will be turned over to the committee. If anyone has minutes from KEMTIA 1972 - 1975, please forward to the Executive Secretary.

Old Business:

• Service Pins - report by Theresa Martin. Additional information will be presented at the April Board Meeting.
• KEMTIA Logo - to be voted on at the April Conference.
• Recorder - coordinate with Bob Gainer re: purchasing recorder system used in past by former secretary.
• Refresher for recertification could be a problem for new EMTs/Instructors if implementing agency does not offer.

New Business:

• Know How, Inc has presented a proposal to the EMS Office to be awarded the contract to provide state wide testing of EMTs.
• Concern was expressed about how much of KEMTIA monetary figures should be made public.
• President McGraw met with the BLS Subcommittee. The following issues were discussed:
  • Money in the contract for "Technical Assist" visits. This would, of course, require approval from the implementing agencies to allow site visits by "outsiders."
  • Complaints against an instructor - to have money in the contract to pay someone to visit the class to determine problems.
• For clarification, the role of Team Captain is automatically assumed by the Regional EMT Coordinator at test site, if he/she is "on site." This duty may be designated to another instructor. The chain for problem solving is: evaluator -> Team Captain -> Regional Coordinator -> Executive Secretary.
• Concern was expressed about having 7 - 8 evaluators for a small class, i.e. 6 - 10 students to be evaluated. A letter will be sent by President McGraw to the regional EMT coordinators concerning proper number of evaluators.
• Concern was expressed about the method for choosing the instructor of the year. The following was decided upon:
  1. A nomination ballot with a designated area for a letter of nomination will be sent out with the minutes.
• Further concern was expressed about the voting process for choosing the recipient of the award. The following was suggested:
  1. Each instructor attendee will receive a ballot with registration at the conference.
  2. The ballot will be completed along with the signature of the voting instructor.
  3. The completed ballot will be placed in a ballot box sometime between Friday and Sunday morning.
  4. The ballots will be collected on Sunday by the Professional Affairs Committee.
• A motion was made by Grover Fishbeck for the Professional Affairs Committee to work on nominations for Instructor of the Year (Dr. Carrey Award).
• A motion by Grover Fishbeck, second by Alice Nordine, for the board to draft an amendment of Article IV of the bylaws allowing new EMT instructors joining KEMTIA in the fall to pay $10.00 membership dues. Membership would be up for renewal at the following April conference. Motion passed.
• A total of 4 strategic planning meeting will be held within the state. Joe Beck, moderator for the sessions, is willing to help the KEMTIA board to do what we want to and how to go about this.
• KEMTIA has the opportunity to rewrite instructor regs in Ky. The following was discussed:
  1. Methods for becoming an instructor
     • Class assistants
     • Instructor candidate: assist with 3 classes and sign off by 3 different lead instructors.
  2. MOI requirements
  3. Instructor evaluations
• Concern was expressed that the rollouts did not adequately prepare instructors to teach scenario based classes. How can this be fixed???? President McGraw will check to determine how much it would cost to get Dr. Walt Stoy to present instruction on this.

Other Issues:

• Currently a challenger from out of state or KY reentry candidate will be tested under the old standards and then must take the transition course (will continue until 1999). Is this really appropriate, since current requirement for EMT certification is the new standard?
• With failure of a skill at test, how do you retest? All or partial, or areas of skill failed???
• The secretary is to coordinate all web page info for our page. Theresa Martin is to call John Hultgren about our page and payment.
• Concerns expressed about not telling a testing student if they pass or fail a skill station, and what he/she did incorrectly.
• EMT Instructors cannot administer the National Registry written exam.
• A recommendation for BLS Committee: EMT instructors both teach (at least partial class) and evaluate.
• Regional testing will be beneficial to test retention of information.

The following committee chairmen were appointed by President McGraw:

1. Administrative portion for evaluation SOP -- Randy Crissman
2. Medial portion for evaluation SOP -- Theresa Martin
3. Written exams -- Alice Nordine and Ron Leatherman
4. Team Captain duties -- Ginny Shumate
5. Consolidation of regulation/draw stations -- Phil Taylor
6. New contract specs -- Pat Trevathan and Teresa Joyce. To include development of a business plan.
7. Regional testing -- Dale Edmonson
8. New regulations for testing -- Aline Flanagan
9. Instructor candidate / instructor trainer -- Gary Madison and Charles Barton

Due to difficulty with committee membership being scattered, the chairman will choose his/her members to work on their committee.

The meeting adjourned at 5:45 pm.

Submitted by: /s/ Aline Flanagan, Secretary

Originally posted: 02.25.97
Last modified: 03.22.03